Astro7x
Nov 12, 02:14 PM
I used to use FCP I found it to be overly complicated to do simple tasks. I manly focus on print design so I have not used it for several years.
Recently I have had to make several projects and I found that Premier CS5 was actually a very strong video editing package. It runs smooth, has a clean Adobe interface and everything worked out great.
While I like CS5, I absolutely hate Adobe due to their ultra crappy Indian based tech support. If you buy $10,000 worth of software from a company you don't expect them to charge you $39 just to talk to a person who is getting paid $1 per hour to read a script.
The Adobe interface is certainly nice, but Premiere does so many weird things that I can't stand it for everything it does differently and right (try duplicating a sequence, editing title tool text, and NOT have it be destructive in your older sequences). The interface is so similar to FCP now that it certainly helps ease users into it. Where with Avid I think there is a bit of a learning curve to anyone looking to switch or have to start using that software in a pinch as a freelancer.
While I love the 'no rendering' aspect of using the complete CS package, it is only practical on personal projects. Anything where I am collaborating with clients and additional graphic designers, I can't have them be updating AE comps within my sequence through dynamic link while I'm working on other things in editorial. Just not practical.
Recently I have had to make several projects and I found that Premier CS5 was actually a very strong video editing package. It runs smooth, has a clean Adobe interface and everything worked out great.
While I like CS5, I absolutely hate Adobe due to their ultra crappy Indian based tech support. If you buy $10,000 worth of software from a company you don't expect them to charge you $39 just to talk to a person who is getting paid $1 per hour to read a script.
The Adobe interface is certainly nice, but Premiere does so many weird things that I can't stand it for everything it does differently and right (try duplicating a sequence, editing title tool text, and NOT have it be destructive in your older sequences). The interface is so similar to FCP now that it certainly helps ease users into it. Where with Avid I think there is a bit of a learning curve to anyone looking to switch or have to start using that software in a pinch as a freelancer.
While I love the 'no rendering' aspect of using the complete CS package, it is only practical on personal projects. Anything where I am collaborating with clients and additional graphic designers, I can't have them be updating AE comps within my sequence through dynamic link while I'm working on other things in editorial. Just not practical.
eye
Dec 29, 09:01 PM
Window Breaker Hammer (If I fly off a bridge into a river and can't get out of my ride.)
http://www.windowpunch.com/images/window-breaker-21.jpg
Salad Spinner
http://s8.thisnext.com/media/230x230/OXO-Salad-Spinner_73E34A78.jpg
Black Peacoat
http://sqero.com/_cache/Coats/img/amazon_B002R3DAA0.jpg
iTunes $15 Gift Cards X2
http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/images/items/16387iTune15_final.JPG
Soft Claws (for my savage kitten)
http://source-www.petco.com/assets/product_images/6/683359734019B.jpg
Bungee Cords Value Pack
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41a9E9T5g-L.jpg
VeggiChop
http://chefn.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/veggichop.jpg
Brown Oxfords
http://cache-images.pronto.com/thumb2.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.pronto.com%2Fimages%2Fproduction%2Fproducts%2Ff5%2Ff1%2Famaz8787e 1df7a27427413c19dce60ad-1274701123_450x450.jpg&wmax=200&hmax=200&quality=80&bgcol=FFFFFF
Wine Preserver
http://www.papyruscookshop.co.uk/pics/11762944239169pump.JPG
http://www.windowpunch.com/images/window-breaker-21.jpg
Salad Spinner
http://s8.thisnext.com/media/230x230/OXO-Salad-Spinner_73E34A78.jpg
Black Peacoat
http://sqero.com/_cache/Coats/img/amazon_B002R3DAA0.jpg
iTunes $15 Gift Cards X2
http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/images/items/16387iTune15_final.JPG
Soft Claws (for my savage kitten)
http://source-www.petco.com/assets/product_images/6/683359734019B.jpg
Bungee Cords Value Pack
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41a9E9T5g-L.jpg
VeggiChop
http://chefn.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/veggichop.jpg
Brown Oxfords
http://cache-images.pronto.com/thumb2.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.pronto.com%2Fimages%2Fproduction%2Fproducts%2Ff5%2Ff1%2Famaz8787e 1df7a27427413c19dce60ad-1274701123_450x450.jpg&wmax=200&hmax=200&quality=80&bgcol=FFFFFF
Wine Preserver
http://www.papyruscookshop.co.uk/pics/11762944239169pump.JPG
Shawnpk
Apr 27, 11:09 PM
If someone stood there for even more than the time it took to read the price tags and the capacity...
zoran
Feb 7, 04:44 AM
is it possible that iPod nano (july2010) to play mpg files? and if so, how?
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brou
May 2, 04:43 PM
I gave blood about 1.5 months ago. I can't give again for another 1.5 months.
I'm O-, so I always give double red cells. My work does a drive every 3 months.
I'm O-, so I always give double red cells. My work does a drive every 3 months.
ozontheroad
Oct 31, 01:46 PM
For hiking, I agree.
As for running, I gotta have my tunes...
i agree %100
As for running, I gotta have my tunes...
i agree %100
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LukaStellwag
Apr 20, 02:13 PM
Hi there,
I have the new mbp with the 128 gb ssd and thus very limited space. I'd like to install some apps from the app store on a seperate, external hdd (for example games, which I rarely play but don't want to delete).
How is this possible?
I have the new mbp with the 128 gb ssd and thus very limited space. I'd like to install some apps from the app store on a seperate, external hdd (for example games, which I rarely play but don't want to delete).
How is this possible?
Rob587
Sep 27, 10:14 PM
would this superdrive upgrade (http://www.macresq.com/store/detail.php?prodID=P009644) be a good idea for my 12"pb? does everything seem compatible and of equal quality as the superdrive apple puts in the powerbooks? will the self install be difficult? what would be difficult about it if anything?
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trssho
Mar 28, 05:08 PM
That's why your auction is gone, and u have likely been banned.
LOL it amazes me how little you guys know about the law. Please report me to the authorities, there is absolutely nothing they can do legally. I even discussed it with my professor who monitored my bar and he got a kick out of it as well haha.
So please, humor me that I'm not a real law student and don't know what I'm talking about. Sorry Apple geeks your area of expertise obviously isn't the political discourse of America. :P
Try my other theories too, like entering my home, etc. Seriously, just humor me. (more so than I already am) LOL
<3 little idiots <3
LOL it amazes me how little you guys know about the law. Please report me to the authorities, there is absolutely nothing they can do legally. I even discussed it with my professor who monitored my bar and he got a kick out of it as well haha.
So please, humor me that I'm not a real law student and don't know what I'm talking about. Sorry Apple geeks your area of expertise obviously isn't the political discourse of America. :P
Try my other theories too, like entering my home, etc. Seriously, just humor me. (more so than I already am) LOL
<3 little idiots <3
xfusejc
Oct 11, 01:35 AM
October :)
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zen.state
Mar 27, 01:36 PM
Would you recommend any of the cleaning compounds to remove the old thermal paste or can I just give it a scrub?
Several suppliers sell a kit of arctic silver 5 & cleaner like this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-5-ArctiClean-Thermal-remover-puri-/160548177539?pt=Computing_ComputerComponents_Fans_Heatsinks_SR&hash=item25616ac683#ht_1338wt_1141
Worthwhile?
In my experience paste can easily be whipped off without cleaner. On the CPU itself I use my finger after touching metal to ground myself. I don't trust chemical cleaners on my computer components no matter how good they claim to be. One wipe with each of about 3 fingers gets it all off. Make sure you wash your hands before and after doing that.
For the heatsink I would use a kleenex made just slightly damp with warm water. The dampness should be so minimal that you can't even squeeze one drop out of it. If any faint bits are left on the chip itself you can use the same barley damp kleenex technique. Do both with the kleenex folded into a small square and be sure to use very little force on the CPU. I have been doing exactly this for years.
Several suppliers sell a kit of arctic silver 5 & cleaner like this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arctic-Silver-5-ArctiClean-Thermal-remover-puri-/160548177539?pt=Computing_ComputerComponents_Fans_Heatsinks_SR&hash=item25616ac683#ht_1338wt_1141
Worthwhile?
In my experience paste can easily be whipped off without cleaner. On the CPU itself I use my finger after touching metal to ground myself. I don't trust chemical cleaners on my computer components no matter how good they claim to be. One wipe with each of about 3 fingers gets it all off. Make sure you wash your hands before and after doing that.
For the heatsink I would use a kleenex made just slightly damp with warm water. The dampness should be so minimal that you can't even squeeze one drop out of it. If any faint bits are left on the chip itself you can use the same barley damp kleenex technique. Do both with the kleenex folded into a small square and be sure to use very little force on the CPU. I have been doing exactly this for years.
MacRumors
Mar 23, 08:55 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/23/craig-federighi-succeeding-bertrand-serlet-as-apples-svp-of-mac-software/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/23/095149-serlet.jpg
Bertrand Serlet (Apple)
Apple today announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/03/23serlet.html) that Bertrand Serlet, senior vice president of Mac Software Engineering, will be departing the company in order to "focus less on products and more on science", although his specific destination remains unknown. Serlet joined Steve Jobs at NeXT in 1989, and transitioned to Apple in 1997 when NeXT was acquired and Jobs brought back to lead Apple."I've worked with Steve for 22 years and have had an incredible time developing products at both NeXT and Apple, but at this point, I want to focus less on products and more on science," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/23/095149-federighi_lion.jpg
Craig Federighi demoing Mac OS X Snow Leopard (Reuters)
Serlet will be replaced by Craig Federighi, currently Apple's vice president of Mac Software Engineering and who has led Mac OS X engineering for the past two years. Federighi is another former NeXT and Apple employee who spent ten years at Ariba before returning to Apple in 2009. Serlet notes that the transition should be seamless given Federighi's role in leading the current Mac OS X team."Craig has done a great job managing the Mac OS team for the past two years, Lion is a great release and the transition should be seamless."Serlet has occasionally appeared at Apple keynote and media events over the years to introduce Mac OS X-related features, and thus well known to longtime Apple followers. Federighi has made a couple of on-stage appearances since his return to Apple, demoing Mac OS X Snow Leopard at WWDC 2009 and showing off some of the features of Apple's forthcoming Mac OS X Lion at last October's "Back to the Mac" event (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/20/live-coverage-of-apples-back-to-the-mac-media-event/).
Article Link: Craig Federighi Succeeding Bertrand Serlet as Apple's SVP of Mac Software (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/23/craig-federighi-succeeding-bertrand-serlet-as-apples-svp-of-mac-software/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/23/095149-serlet.jpg
Bertrand Serlet (Apple)
Apple today announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/03/23serlet.html) that Bertrand Serlet, senior vice president of Mac Software Engineering, will be departing the company in order to "focus less on products and more on science", although his specific destination remains unknown. Serlet joined Steve Jobs at NeXT in 1989, and transitioned to Apple in 1997 when NeXT was acquired and Jobs brought back to lead Apple."I've worked with Steve for 22 years and have had an incredible time developing products at both NeXT and Apple, but at this point, I want to focus less on products and more on science," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/23/095149-federighi_lion.jpg
Craig Federighi demoing Mac OS X Snow Leopard (Reuters)
Serlet will be replaced by Craig Federighi, currently Apple's vice president of Mac Software Engineering and who has led Mac OS X engineering for the past two years. Federighi is another former NeXT and Apple employee who spent ten years at Ariba before returning to Apple in 2009. Serlet notes that the transition should be seamless given Federighi's role in leading the current Mac OS X team."Craig has done a great job managing the Mac OS team for the past two years, Lion is a great release and the transition should be seamless."Serlet has occasionally appeared at Apple keynote and media events over the years to introduce Mac OS X-related features, and thus well known to longtime Apple followers. Federighi has made a couple of on-stage appearances since his return to Apple, demoing Mac OS X Snow Leopard at WWDC 2009 and showing off some of the features of Apple's forthcoming Mac OS X Lion at last October's "Back to the Mac" event (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/20/live-coverage-of-apples-back-to-the-mac-media-event/).
Article Link: Craig Federighi Succeeding Bertrand Serlet as Apple's SVP of Mac Software (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/23/craig-federighi-succeeding-bertrand-serlet-as-apples-svp-of-mac-software/)
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MacBacon
Mar 3, 11:44 PM
Anyone know how to remove Saft 7.5.5 Demo from Safari?
Thanks
Thanks
Prom1
Mar 23, 06:53 PM
Serlet, is a pure (if you will) technical computer engineer... He get enjoyment about scientific computation, advanced algorithms, multi-threaded efficiency. The guy was nicknamed the "mad scientist" by Jobs himself, not because of his appearance, but because of he advanced studies in engineering and scientific computation.
He's like the man in the tech French community.
I can understand why he may want to leave, he's been gradually selling off his stock of Apple in recent years as well, so this makes sense.
Apple is more iOS then OS X and since Forstall heads the iOS development, there was no viable way Bertrand could have stayed on when Apple decided to merge the OS's.
I say it's a big loss for Apple. Though Craig should be a pleasant transition, and maybe a more frequent keynote speaker, since he's more understandable to the public.
Serlet will be missed. He's pretty much one of the Core brains behind OS X
I completed agree - except the part about being understandable. The ENTIRE audience got many of his jokes with Vista at the Leopard announcement and even with Snow Leopard. Just cause your ears cannot focus out the intricacies of a slight french accent doesn't mean the generic public cannot.
He's like the man in the tech French community.
I can understand why he may want to leave, he's been gradually selling off his stock of Apple in recent years as well, so this makes sense.
Apple is more iOS then OS X and since Forstall heads the iOS development, there was no viable way Bertrand could have stayed on when Apple decided to merge the OS's.
I say it's a big loss for Apple. Though Craig should be a pleasant transition, and maybe a more frequent keynote speaker, since he's more understandable to the public.
Serlet will be missed. He's pretty much one of the Core brains behind OS X
I completed agree - except the part about being understandable. The ENTIRE audience got many of his jokes with Vista at the Leopard announcement and even with Snow Leopard. Just cause your ears cannot focus out the intricacies of a slight french accent doesn't mean the generic public cannot.
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iMeowbot
Oct 16, 02:45 PM
.Mac webmail seems to be down again.
Could the update finally be happening??
It's up from here, and it's still the old interface.
Could the update finally be happening??
It's up from here, and it's still the old interface.
shk718
Apr 28, 06:03 AM
apparently apple needs to educate the local news programs better. my local nbc news reporter in nyc just said that "the iphone does send tracking information back to apple".
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baleensavage
Jan 9, 03:33 PM
I too was disappointed with the keynote today.
The iPhone is a great device, but nothing that I'd buy. If they get rid of the phone capabilities and make it a real video iPod with wifi, I'd be all over it. Plus the whole cingular thing is a downer. On the whole though it was a good announcement for Apple and I'm sure it will revolutionize the cell phone industry.
The iTV is lame. All it is is a front row interface to your computer with a hard drive. Nothing really exciting there. Like others have mentioned, add in Web browsing, a DVD drive, the ability to record TV onto the hard drive, then maybe it would be worth the $300 price tag.
And removing Computers from the name makes sense, but it doesn't bode well for the computers part of Apple.
As for not having 10.5 info, I'm actually glad that they didn't. Vista is just out of the box. Let Vista cool off a little before Apple blows it out of the water. We don't want Microsoft stealing Apple's thunder with their 3-years-too-late OS. It'd be like if Apple released the iPhone right after the Zune thing came out.
The iPhone is a great device, but nothing that I'd buy. If they get rid of the phone capabilities and make it a real video iPod with wifi, I'd be all over it. Plus the whole cingular thing is a downer. On the whole though it was a good announcement for Apple and I'm sure it will revolutionize the cell phone industry.
The iTV is lame. All it is is a front row interface to your computer with a hard drive. Nothing really exciting there. Like others have mentioned, add in Web browsing, a DVD drive, the ability to record TV onto the hard drive, then maybe it would be worth the $300 price tag.
And removing Computers from the name makes sense, but it doesn't bode well for the computers part of Apple.
As for not having 10.5 info, I'm actually glad that they didn't. Vista is just out of the box. Let Vista cool off a little before Apple blows it out of the water. We don't want Microsoft stealing Apple's thunder with their 3-years-too-late OS. It'd be like if Apple released the iPhone right after the Zune thing came out.
Sydde
Apr 5, 07:36 PM
I agree with the notion that people should try to take steps to avoid risk, and that people can greatly reduce personal risk by making safer choices.
But this nugget of wisdom does not really touch on the substance of the issue arising in the OP, to wit - how much responsiblity does a rape victim carry? Or, to turn the question around, how much of the rape is not the rapist's fault?
What kind of twisted logic hears of a rape decides that looking "like a prostitute" is the salient feature of the case? What about the crazed deviant who committed the crime in the first place? Indeed, I think Gelfin's analogy is apt - if a smartly-dressed man is mugged, should we simply shrug our shoulders and say "well, he looked like he had a lot of money so he was asking for it. He should have been wearing something less ostentatious."
It's also, by the way, fallacious to assume that only young, attractive and/or scantily-clad women are raped. Such suppositions are the product of the same twisted male chauvinist perspective that suggests that looking "like a prostitute" means that women are "asking for it".
As I have suggested, we cannot really know the answers to these questions without first interviewing (or obtaining transcripts of interviews of) rapists. Most of us on this forum are not rapists (I hope), so making broad inferences on what goes through such a monster's mind is rather pointless. If we can obtain a body of information that clearly demonstrates that rapists are commonly motivated by the victims' appearance/attire, then we can lend credence to the statement quoted in the OP. Prior to obtaining such evidence, to suggest that dress codes will improve school childrens' safety is at best unsupportable and at worst ridiculous. Odd that these "libertarian" types are back at attempting to steal away our freedoms.
But this nugget of wisdom does not really touch on the substance of the issue arising in the OP, to wit - how much responsiblity does a rape victim carry? Or, to turn the question around, how much of the rape is not the rapist's fault?
What kind of twisted logic hears of a rape decides that looking "like a prostitute" is the salient feature of the case? What about the crazed deviant who committed the crime in the first place? Indeed, I think Gelfin's analogy is apt - if a smartly-dressed man is mugged, should we simply shrug our shoulders and say "well, he looked like he had a lot of money so he was asking for it. He should have been wearing something less ostentatious."
It's also, by the way, fallacious to assume that only young, attractive and/or scantily-clad women are raped. Such suppositions are the product of the same twisted male chauvinist perspective that suggests that looking "like a prostitute" means that women are "asking for it".
As I have suggested, we cannot really know the answers to these questions without first interviewing (or obtaining transcripts of interviews of) rapists. Most of us on this forum are not rapists (I hope), so making broad inferences on what goes through such a monster's mind is rather pointless. If we can obtain a body of information that clearly demonstrates that rapists are commonly motivated by the victims' appearance/attire, then we can lend credence to the statement quoted in the OP. Prior to obtaining such evidence, to suggest that dress codes will improve school childrens' safety is at best unsupportable and at worst ridiculous. Odd that these "libertarian" types are back at attempting to steal away our freedoms.
eji
Sep 27, 02:24 AM
If you don't have it now - don't bother getting it. There are free services that do everything that .Mac does. However, since I am so dependent on the email address - I'm stuck paying the $99 a year.
You can get it for $79, sometimes lower, on Amazon.com. Don't fall for the all-too-easy "automatic renewal" check box. I've wasted at least one hundred bucks over the years through that thing.
You can get it for $79, sometimes lower, on Amazon.com. Don't fall for the all-too-easy "automatic renewal" check box. I've wasted at least one hundred bucks over the years through that thing.
zen.state
Apr 5, 03:52 AM
Yeah must be crossed posts!
What is weird though is that I just ran geekbench and got a score of 764 with only 256mb ram compared with 732 when I had 512md ram :confused:
could it be that the dodgy dimm was registering its capacity but hindering the machine in the geekbench tests due to it being faulty?
Geekbench isn't super consistent with it's scores in my experience. Xbench is even worse. I have seen GB waver as much as 30-40 points in identical situations.
The best benchmarks for consistency which is exactly what you need in a benchmark:
Cinebench (CPU and Hardware/Software Graphics)
SuperPrime (prime number CPU bench)
PowerFractal (Altivec)
OpenMark (3D video)
Let 1000 Windows Bloom (2D video)
QuickBench (hard disk)
What is weird though is that I just ran geekbench and got a score of 764 with only 256mb ram compared with 732 when I had 512md ram :confused:
could it be that the dodgy dimm was registering its capacity but hindering the machine in the geekbench tests due to it being faulty?
Geekbench isn't super consistent with it's scores in my experience. Xbench is even worse. I have seen GB waver as much as 30-40 points in identical situations.
The best benchmarks for consistency which is exactly what you need in a benchmark:
Cinebench (CPU and Hardware/Software Graphics)
SuperPrime (prime number CPU bench)
PowerFractal (Altivec)
OpenMark (3D video)
Let 1000 Windows Bloom (2D video)
QuickBench (hard disk)
rhett7660
Apr 7, 02:21 PM
I'm lovin it, but no space invaders :(
Well that sucks. Between Space Invaders and Astroides those are my two favorite Atari games... Now if we could just get some of the Activision games ported over! Oh.......the memories.
Some games I would like to see now that we are seeing stuff like this pop up in the app store:
Joust
Gauntlet
Pitfall
Defender
Tecmo Bowl
Star Wars (wire frame version)
Afterburner
:D
Well that sucks. Between Space Invaders and Astroides those are my two favorite Atari games... Now if we could just get some of the Activision games ported over! Oh.......the memories.
Some games I would like to see now that we are seeing stuff like this pop up in the app store:
Joust
Gauntlet
Pitfall
Defender
Tecmo Bowl
Star Wars (wire frame version)
Afterburner
:D
HydroMan
Feb 20, 09:39 AM
Ok, here you go, my list of "Must Have" free apps: .......
Gimp: A very poor man's photoshop.
Anyway, thats all. Let me know what you think of my list.
I'd have to disagree Gimp is a powerful app I love it and compared to PS it's a steal. It's free and if your a hobbyist like me that alone is unbeatable, I could never justify spending $649 for just touching up the odd photo, Gimp is invaluable if you like to make your own calendars, invites, birthday cards, spoof pictures etc, I used to use Corel Draw/Photo-Paint8 until I upgraded to OSX and can say Gimp is far superior to them, I'm not having ago at you I just think the term "very" would put off a lot of non/semi pro's from trying it.
System optimizer is shareware-$12
Cocktail is a demo prices start from $14.95 - $699-(ok thats for a worldwide licence :D )
Konfabulator is shareware-$24.95
Gimp: A very poor man's photoshop.
Anyway, thats all. Let me know what you think of my list.
I'd have to disagree Gimp is a powerful app I love it and compared to PS it's a steal. It's free and if your a hobbyist like me that alone is unbeatable, I could never justify spending $649 for just touching up the odd photo, Gimp is invaluable if you like to make your own calendars, invites, birthday cards, spoof pictures etc, I used to use Corel Draw/Photo-Paint8 until I upgraded to OSX and can say Gimp is far superior to them, I'm not having ago at you I just think the term "very" would put off a lot of non/semi pro's from trying it.
System optimizer is shareware-$12
Cocktail is a demo prices start from $14.95 - $699-(ok thats for a worldwide licence :D )
Konfabulator is shareware-$24.95
bdkennedy1
Apr 7, 12:18 PM
Read the product reviews before buying. Some people are complaining that some games are impossible to play on the iPhone screen. Additionally, some games just can't cross over into a touch screen environment because of joystick limitations.
SevenInchScrew
Apr 8, 11:24 AM
Always think of Jeremy when I see a Clubman.
That scene was him driving the Ariel Atom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v4YNkurhLk), though I'm sure the effect on one's face would be much the same in the Caterham.
That scene was him driving the Ariel Atom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v4YNkurhLk), though I'm sure the effect on one's face would be much the same in the Caterham.